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certainly mitt romney is far to the right on things like women's issues, on choice, on judge, on all those things, but i think the conversation has been more about is he for the top over the folks who are in the middle and at the bottom. if you look at what he did at the debate, he tried to, you know, wiggle his way out of being this guy who is just for the top, this plutocrat that american people think he is basically and that he is, and the truth of the matter is that his position, the things that he has espoused on the campaign trail that he used to get through the republican primary, are positions that are very focused on the top and it looks like what the campaign is doing and what the press is doing is pointing out mitt romney is not telling the truth about the positions he has. >> yeah. but that's presuming he's going to stay on one message or the other. the most shocking thing about the debate, you're not going to do the 20% across the board tax cut, now you like certain parts of the obama care, but it muddles the president's tactics in terms on hammering him on things if tho
certainly mitt romney is far to the right on things like women's issues, on choice, on judge, on all those things, but i think the conversation has been more about is he for the top over the folks who are in the middle and at the bottom. if you look at what he did at the debate, he tried to, you know, wiggle his way out of being this guy who is just for the top, this plutocrat that american people think he is basically and that he is, and the truth of the matter is that his position, the things...
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they've been following what mitt romney has said. >> right. >> they're tuning in to the fact that he wasn't telling the truth last night. >> the conversation we had just a moment ago says on some of these things there are different ways of looking at t the point is, who is going to make the best point to the american people? some things can be proven definitively right or wrong. andrew sullivan, an influential supporter of the president and blogger called his performance absolutely disgracefully bad. let me play a sound bite of what he said and let you respond to that. >> i have never seen a president of the united states blather, blather on like that, bore us, tell us none of his major arguments, fight back against any of the obvious distortions of the other candidate and just sit there. i mean, really. and you know how much i love this guy. >> stephanie, did you feel a little bit of that frustration? >> you know, i appreciate his opinion. i disagree with it. i think the president had a good performance last night. obviously, mitt romney had a good performance, but that's just what
they've been following what mitt romney has said. >> right. >> they're tuning in to the fact that he wasn't telling the truth last night. >> the conversation we had just a moment ago says on some of these things there are different ways of looking at t the point is, who is going to make the best point to the american people? some things can be proven definitively right or wrong. andrew sullivan, an influential supporter of the president and blogger called his performance...
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next, the president on the road again, as mitt romney campaigns right now with an aircraft carrier in the background. so who has the upper hand today? stay with us. i gave birth to my daughter on may 18th, five days later, i had a massive heart attack. bayer aspirin was the first thing the emts gave me. now, i'm on a bayer aspirin regimen. [ male announcer ] be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. [ woman ] learn from my story. that's a good thing, but it doesn't cover everything. only about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. so consider an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans, they help save you up to thousands in out-of-pocket costs. call today to request a free decision guide. with these types of plans, you'll be able to visit any doctor or hospital that accepts medicare patients... plus, there are no networks, and you'll never need a referral to see a specialist. join the millions who have already enrolled in the only medicare supp
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mitt romney is not a progressive, you're right. who cares. >> i'd repeal dodd frank. we're not going to get rid of all regulation. you have to have regulation. >> cenk: unfortunately, it worked. we'll tell you the results and we'll tell you how it worked on the show. then did president obama take it easy on romney because fox news has been charging him with being an angry black man because of this old clip. >> what is happening down in new orleans? where is your dollar? where is your money? it tells me that some how people in new orleans, they don't care about it as much. >> cenk: that is a really interesting debate. we'll have that on the show. and then toby zeigler from the "west wing"." >> it's not rocket science, it's labeled, but it takes a voter extra ten seconds to find it. >> cenk: how he would have done last night. all that and the elbow of the day. well somebody elbowed themselves. you might have been able to guess it. that's all on "the young turks." guess what time is it? you know it. you guessed that too. it's go time. >> romney: i will not under any circ
mitt romney is not a progressive, you're right. who cares. >> i'd repeal dodd frank. we're not going to get rid of all regulation. you have to have regulation. >> cenk: unfortunately, it worked. we'll tell you the results and we'll tell you how it worked on the show. then did president obama take it easy on romney because fox news has been charging him with being an angry black man because of this old clip. >> what is happening down in new orleans? where is your dollar? where...
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last night's opening statements set the tone for the debate and mitt romney came right out of the gate with, get this, a joke. let's watch. >> 20 years ago i became the luckiest man on earth because michelle obama agreed to marry me, and so i just want to wish, sweetie, you happy anniversary and let you know that a year from now we will not be celebrating it in front of 40 million people. >> congratulations to you, mr. president, on your anniversary. i'm sure this was the most ro n romantic place you could imagine here with me. congratulations. >> that was, i hate to say it, charming. >> yeah. >> james. >> yeah. >> where did that come from? >> it came from mitt romney. he's rather notorious for telling nox that go over lie lead balloons. this did not. he finally found his groove as far as a comedian is concerned. at least for that moment. >> let's talk about the president. he was the one i think that was the base of most consternation. you know, he was looking down a lot. did he know and what did you think about the fact of that split screen? there we are watching it now. we never didn
last night's opening statements set the tone for the debate and mitt romney came right out of the gate with, get this, a joke. let's watch. >> 20 years ago i became the luckiest man on earth because michelle obama agreed to marry me, and so i just want to wish, sweetie, you happy anniversary and let you know that a year from now we will not be celebrating it in front of 40 million people. >> congratulations to you, mr. president, on your anniversary. i'm sure this was the most ro n...
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we'll be right back. >>> look at mitt romney's stunning 180 on this. >> all right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, you name it. it's an entitlement. and the government should give it to them. and they will vote for this president no matter what. >> last night, two and a half weeks after that tape surfaced, government romney went on fox news where he was asked how he would have answered if the tape had come up in wednesday's debate. here's part of his answer. >> clearly in a campaign with hundreds, if not thousands of speeches and question and answer sessions, now and then you're going to say something that doesn't come out right. in this case i said something that's just completely wrong. >> he said "completely wrong." that's completely weird namely because the night the tape aired, mr. romney rushed to a microphone to defend his 47% remarks. he kept defending them and hounded supporters for days after that. >> it'
we'll be right back. >>> look at mitt romney's stunning 180 on this. >> all right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, you name it. it's an entitlement. and the government should give it to them. and they will vote for this president no matter what. >> last night, two and a half weeks after that tape...
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was so important when mitt romney stood there talking about states' rights. states' rights is what was fought against to get the voting rights in '65 where alabama wanted the right to determine who would vote and how. we need a strong national government to support strong american people. thanks for watching. i'm al sharpton. "hardball" starts right now. >>> the day after. let's play "hardball." ♪ >>> good evening. i'm chris matthews back in washington. let me start tonight with two big questions, "hardball" questions if you will. one, why? why did what happened last night happen? why did a president who has proven himself as a policy expert and world class politician let the other guy take charge? because if he can't answer that question, he may be doomed to defeat in the remaining two debates. second big question, can a victory over the facts of last night's debate, what was true and what was not, turn the tables now? can barack obama win by getting out the word he didn't get out last night? and both are big questions tonight that might just decide this p
was so important when mitt romney stood there talking about states' rights. states' rights is what was fought against to get the voting rights in '65 where alabama wanted the right to determine who would vote and how. we need a strong national government to support strong american people. thanks for watching. i'm al sharpton. "hardball" starts right now. >>> the day after. let's play "hardball." ♪ >>> good evening. i'm chris matthews back in washington....
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that's what this 47% tape did, right? it ended up verifying a six-month campaign the obama folks had been waging against mitt romney saying he was rich, saying he wouldn't release his tax returns, talking about bain capital, as howard has brought up before. and then the 47% video comes out and it sort of says, oh, it verifies everything the obama campaign has been saying about this guy. now i've heard it straight from romney's mouth. that's the extra hurdle now that he's dealing with with this final sliver of voters who can move, and that's -- but they haven't yet. >> howard, a question for you, it's historic. why do some candidates like bobby kennedy, jack kennedy, even pat buchanan, come out of a campaign learning about something? you actually learn something. and you have an emotion about it because you have been relatively privileged, most candidates have, and you get exposed to people's lives who are very difficult. why do you think romney has avoided that moment where he says, i get it. >> if he had that moment, he
that's what this 47% tape did, right? it ended up verifying a six-month campaign the obama folks had been waging against mitt romney saying he was rich, saying he wouldn't release his tax returns, talking about bain capital, as howard has brought up before. and then the 47% video comes out and it sort of says, oh, it verifies everything the obama campaign has been saying about this guy. now i've heard it straight from romney's mouth. that's the extra hurdle now that he's dealing with with this...
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i have talketo several of my right wingriends who when romney's tape came out said i wish romney talked like this more often they are able to say thi cae they never lived on government assistance. they he lived on corporate welfare, but tn't hey doe that as the se thing. for people who have lived on government assistance, it can be a soul-crushing thing. for stance, unemployment. i've been on unempyment. othepe debilitating feeling to know you're not contributing at that moment. anthe idea that that's your preferd state of being just shows the lack of understanding th people like romney and ryan have for people who are that situation. an that enables them to provide for their family rather than feeling like ty are some type of leech. it's doubly insulting en ty are then told on this onal stage, hey, you're in rough me in ur life. nolyre you in a rough time, but you' a leech on societ >> the phrasing, they are not exact parallel phrasin but romney saying es cannot be persuaded to take responsibility for their liv. and ryan saying they do t believe the american dream. similar parall langu
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"hardball" starts right now. >>> does romney like you? let's play "hardball." ♪ >>> good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. on the way to denver. let me start with this brand new nbc/wall street journal poll out tonight. what it shows in addition to an obama leading that's hardening is a deep concern that mitt romney said about that 47% of the country he says can't be counted on to meet its responsibility. it's that part of the country that romney has dismissed as free-loaders, moochers, takers. people, especially veteran families, people retired on social security, regular americans, that is, don't like being dismissed that way, injury added by insult. i'm joined by chuck todd and howard fineman with "the huffington post." the latest poll shows among likely voters the president leads 49% to 46% for romney. that's down net two points from two weeks ago when the president was up by five. to what to you attribute the movement, chuck todd? >> well, first of all, the more important number has always been the president sitting at 49% or 50%. i would go through his job approval
"hardball" starts right now. >>> does romney like you? let's play "hardball." ♪ >>> good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. on the way to denver. let me start with this brand new nbc/wall street journal poll out tonight. what it shows in addition to an obama leading that's hardening is a deep concern that mitt romney said about that 47% of the country he says can't be counted on to meet its responsibility. it's that part of the country that romney...
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you know, mitt romney got a big laugh. he seemed genuine. >> right. i think i talk toud about this the other day. mike deaver, the media adviser to ronald reagan, he once said these television events -- and make no mistake a debate is a television event -- 85% visual, 10% how you sound and 5% of what you actually say. leading up to the importance of, as you've been talking about, likability. i'm taken aback by how much more stiff president obama was than mitt romney. you played moments like that and throughout the debate, mitt romney seemed calm, in command of the facts, comfortable, made eye contact with the president. the president simply just looked uncomfortabl uncomfortable. >> and, roland, one of the boston papers had a headline that it was snore more years for obama. i mean, the reviews of his performance are harsh. >> absolutely. i think that it was lackluster, to some degree. i will disagree with will cain when he said mitt romney had a command of the facts. he had a command of what mitt thought actually were facts. you look at the fact check
you know, mitt romney got a big laugh. he seemed genuine. >> right. i think i talk toud about this the other day. mike deaver, the media adviser to ronald reagan, he once said these television events -- and make no mistake a debate is a television event -- 85% visual, 10% how you sound and 5% of what you actually say. leading up to the importance of, as you've been talking about, likability. i'm taken aback by how much more stiff president obama was than mitt romney. you played moments...
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mitt romney turned in a strong performance and the president turned in an uneven performance. the disparity led to a perception that president obama lost the debate. if you look at the commentary, not from the right, but people who love barack obama, almost every one of them, every pundit was saying that he lost. some saying he lost decisively. some saying he lost so badly, it could cost him the election. to me, it's hyperbolic. it speaks to the fact mitt romney changed the narrative of the campaign. >> what does it mean, jim, for mitt romney. if we accept he won the night last night, how does he make it about more than one night and a turning point in the campaign? >> i can't emphasize how big last night was for mitt romney. you have to view it from the mitt romney that came into the debate. conservatives were down on him. his staff were down on him. donors were reluctant to give money to him. most thought he had no opportunity to win the race. he comes out of the debate as somebody who reassured conservatives. his biggest critics are applauding him. the donors are excited ag
mitt romney turned in a strong performance and the president turned in an uneven performance. the disparity led to a perception that president obama lost the debate. if you look at the commentary, not from the right, but people who love barack obama, almost every one of them, every pundit was saying that he lost. some saying he lost decisively. some saying he lost so badly, it could cost him the election. to me, it's hyperbolic. it speaks to the fact mitt romney changed the narrative of the...
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right at the top of that debate last night when romney first mentioned trickle-down government, obamaobviously, it's easy to say in retrospect, he should have said, no, you're the big supporter of trickle-down economics, let's not confuse the issue, let's be clear, you believe in trickle-down economics and grab the initiative. he has to do that the next time when romney plays these word games. >> is the thing to do to name the tactic? you are doing this in order to confuse the fact, in order to, you know, occlude the accusation against you that, i mean, is that how you do it? >> go that, go after the tactic. again, it's easy to say this as a monday morning quarterback, but then you pivot to the substance of it and explain why what he just said is not true. you don't call him a liar or say that's not true. or do something that can end up, you know, going viral in some way that is not helpful to the campaign. just have to very clearly and cogently, and it was cogency that was lacking last night, rip through the other guy's point. >> mitt romney said he does not espouse positions he's been runnin
right at the top of that debate last night when romney first mentioned trickle-down government, obamaobviously, it's easy to say in retrospect, he should have said, no, you're the big supporter of trickle-down economics, let's not confuse the issue, let's be clear, you believe in trickle-down economics and grab the initiative. he has to do that the next time when romney plays these word games. >> is the thing to do to name the tactic? you are doing this in order to confuse the fact, in...
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that, but, look, i think there was a problem with the romney/ryan pick right off the bat, and that was ryan had a plan that was obviously well-publicized, that was defeated, but since mitt romney was short on specifics in his plan, the media immediately filled in the holes and the gaps in romney's plan with ryan's old plan. >> but hogan, i thought -- >> they couldn't answer the question. >> hogan, just before you answer fully though, my understanding was that mitt romney had embraced ball ryan's budget. indeed, i heard him say that. so i think it's slightly inaccurate to suggest that somehow mitt romney has been separate from paul ryan. he's embraced paul ryan's budget. >> well, if i'm not mistaken, that, too, was in a primary that in a sense they were asking would you embrace his plan and romney said, yeah, it's a good plan, but as the nominee obviously, you have your own plan. the raub is that plan was a little bit short on specifics, shall we say, and so they filled the gaps smartly so done by the democrats by the way, they filled the gaps with ryan's plan to try to make romney's pl
that, but, look, i think there was a problem with the romney/ryan pick right off the bat, and that was ryan had a plan that was obviously well-publicized, that was defeated, but since mitt romney was short on specifics in his plan, the media immediately filled in the holes and the gaps in romney's plan with ryan's old plan. >> but hogan, i thought -- >> they couldn't answer the question. >> hogan, just before you answer fully though, my understanding was that mitt romney had...
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is chris christie right? this is make or break for mitt romney? >> i think he's got more at steak than obama. it's one of his last shots. >> jeanne cummings, as you're watching this back and forth, do you expect a confrontational debate or a polite exchange? >> based on what the reporting shows and the preparation of the romney campaign, they are looking to bring the game to president obama. he has to do offense and defense, very tricky in the first debate, and i think he's well prepared. he may surprise some people. >> mark, i want you to talk to me about all of the national polls we have gotten in the last 24 hours. cnn, politico, abc post, they all have something in common. what are we seeing here that's good for obama and what are we seeing here that's good for romney? >> what's good for obama is he's hitting 50%, where you need to be. if obama wins, it's going to be with numbers like those. if i'm mitt romney, i'm liking the fact the race is tightening a little bit. the question is whether this is natural tightening or is mitt romney really m
is chris christie right? this is make or break for mitt romney? >> i think he's got more at steak than obama. it's one of his last shots. >> jeanne cummings, as you're watching this back and forth, do you expect a confrontational debate or a polite exchange? >> based on what the reporting shows and the preparation of the romney campaign, they are looking to bring the game to president obama. he has to do offense and defense, very tricky in the first debate, and i think he's...
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mitt romney is sure going to try. but you're right, i mean, the polls show it. he has a steep hill to climb in terms of changing the narrative, in term of bringing people to his side, in term of maybe tightening the polls with the president. when you have the 47% video out there, when you have other comments out there such as, i'm not very concerned about poor people or i like firing -- i like being able to fire people who provide services to me, it sets up this image of a person who really is not like us. the us -- by the us i mean, not just the 47%, but the 99% of the folks who don't get to live in the way mitt romney has been able to live as a very wealthy man. again, there's nothing wrong with being a very wealthy man. there is something wrong about a person running for the president of the united states who the voters feel like they can't relate to me and he can't relate to my problems, so how is he going to be able to solve them? >> john, isn't the president actually in the more vulnerable position in terms of behavior and demeanor? because the president h
mitt romney is sure going to try. but you're right, i mean, the polls show it. he has a steep hill to climb in terms of changing the narrative, in term of bringing people to his side, in term of maybe tightening the polls with the president. when you have the 47% video out there, when you have other comments out there such as, i'm not very concerned about poor people or i like firing -- i like being able to fire people who provide services to me, it sets up this image of a person who really is...
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he's ridiculing mitt romney right now. let's listen in. >> don't want what he's been selling over the last year. governor romney may dance around his positions. he may do a tap dance and a two-step, but if you want to be president, then you owe the american people the truth. so here's the truth. governor romney cannot pay for his $5 trillion tax plan without blowing up the deficit or sticking it to the middle class. we can't afford to go down that road again. we can't afford another round of budget busting tax cuts for the wealthy. we can't afford to gut our investments in education or clean energy or research or technology. we can't afford to roll back regulations on wall street banks or oil companies or insurance companies. we can't afford to double down on the same topdown economic policies that got us into this mess. that is not a jobs plan. it's not a plan for our economy. it's not a plan to strengthened middle class. it is not change. it is a relapse. and we're not going to do it. we have been there. we have tried th
he's ridiculing mitt romney right now. let's listen in. >> don't want what he's been selling over the last year. governor romney may dance around his positions. he may do a tap dance and a two-step, but if you want to be president, then you owe the american people the truth. so here's the truth. governor romney cannot pay for his $5 trillion tax plan without blowing up the deficit or sticking it to the middle class. we can't afford to go down that road again. we can't afford another round...
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>> well, both the president and mitt romney are both right the way they answered the question. the reality is we don't have a specific incentive to take jobs out of the u.s. but what happens is if you can move your taxable income to another jurisdiction that has a low tax rate, like china, you can pay less taxes in total as long as you don't repatriate the money back to the u.s. the president is right that you get a benefit. mitt romney is right in the sense there is nothing the tax code specifically that gives them a deduction for taking things out of the country. >> so is anything going on right now, either in the free market, or in government incentives to start turning the outsourcing trend into an in sourcing trend, reversing that hemorrhage of jobs going overseas and start bringing them back. what is the true story going on right now? >> well, the most important thing is that companies recognize that the economic shifted. it was in 2001 that companies started to outsource to china because wages were only 58 cents an hour. they have grown a lot and the is us h u.s. has got
>> well, both the president and mitt romney are both right the way they answered the question. the reality is we don't have a specific incentive to take jobs out of the u.s. but what happens is if you can move your taxable income to another jurisdiction that has a low tax rate, like china, you can pay less taxes in total as long as you don't repatriate the money back to the u.s. the president is right that you get a benefit. mitt romney is right in the sense there is nothing the tax code...
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that is the challenge governor romney has. >> bill: all right, scott. you are polling right now, right? >> absolutely. and when will your first national poll that reflects the debate be out? >> first national poll done after the debate comes out next sunday morning. next couple of days get a hint where it is moving. >> bill: do you want to predict where it's going? >> the president was ahead a couple of points before the debate. it wouldn't surprise me if he is behind by a couple. >> bill: three or four point swing? >> three or four point swing. >> bill: you are also doing the swing state polls, ohio, virginia, florida. those do you hope to see the same things there. >> absolutely. now, in ohio, the president has had a little bigger lead. any gains that romney makes will perhaps just cut into that. wouldn't surprise me if mr. romney moves ahead in florida or virginia. >> bill: now, things are going really really fast now. okay? we're down about a month before we are going to vote. and it gets to be harder and harder the closer and closer you get to elec
that is the challenge governor romney has. >> bill: all right, scott. you are polling right now, right? >> absolutely. and when will your first national poll that reflects the debate be out? >> first national poll done after the debate comes out next sunday morning. next couple of days get a hint where it is moving. >> bill: do you want to predict where it's going? >> the president was ahead a couple of points before the debate. it wouldn't surprise me if he is...
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i would do it if i were romney. i wouldn't bring it up say, you know, like right out of the box. but as soon as the president is -- you are a person who doesn't really want to represent all america, guy are you kidding me? i go are you kidding me? you are saying that to me? and bang, bang, bang. and i would do it. do you expect, kirsten, passion like i bring or are we going to have pinheaded stuff like pbs does? what are we going to have? we're not going to have passion as you call it, whatever it is that you have. >> none of that. >> look, it's supposed to be all on the economy so i think it's probably going to be, you know, pretty straightforward. hopefully a difficult question holding obama accountable and making him account for his record. >> bill: are you talking about this debate or it's undebated in the land of oz? don't you guys get it? it doesn't matter what lehrer asks. they are north going to answer that question. neither of them are going to answer it. they are going to -- they have been rehearsing. what do you think they have been rehearsing over the past three month
i would do it if i were romney. i wouldn't bring it up say, you know, like right out of the box. but as soon as the president is -- you are a person who doesn't really want to represent all america, guy are you kidding me? i go are you kidding me? you are saying that to me? and bang, bang, bang. and i would do it. do you expect, kirsten, passion like i bring or are we going to have pinheaded stuff like pbs does? what are we going to have? we're not going to have passion as you call it, whatever...
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that's a lie, too, right? why don't you call mitt romney out on that? >> because mitt romney is thinking about a plan which would lower regulations, which would change the tax, which would drive an energy policy that's very aggressive. i don't know if he's going to get 12. i'm not a romney surrogate. i'm not in the campaign. i have never talked to the campaign. i have nothing to do with romney. i just believe this number should not determine the outcome of the presidential election. did you see today -- >> i agree with you. jack, you're a hero to business people in this country. you're a hero to all sorts of people. just do it now. do it. i can go back to loving you and you can go back to loving me. just do it now and say it's not right what you said. nobody cooked the books. you don't truly believe that, do you? >> i said i should have put a question mark at the back of it. >> would you argue that you were being provocative and had you put a question mark it would have been seen as more of a provocative statement rather than factual -- >> it would have
that's a lie, too, right? why don't you call mitt romney out on that? >> because mitt romney is thinking about a plan which would lower regulations, which would change the tax, which would drive an energy policy that's very aggressive. i don't know if he's going to get 12. i'm not a romney surrogate. i'm not in the campaign. i have never talked to the campaign. i have nothing to do with romney. i just believe this number should not determine the outcome of the presidential election. did...
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whether they're fired up for romney, forget that question right now. they're fired up to vote out obama. you don't see that among hispanics, not among young voters. that's still an issue the obama campaign has to worry about. >> okay. in swing states, of course, the obama campaign has bomb borded vote wers this powerful ad going over romney for his 47% remark. let's take a look. >> there are 47% of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. who are dependent on government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they're entitled to haek, to food, to housing, to you name it. and they will vote for this president no matter what. and so my job is not to worry about those people. i'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives. >> howard, i opened the show tonight with what we call our cold open. i said does obama like you? and there's a lot of people who are going to see that ad and say, i'm in that picture somewhere. i'
whether they're fired up for romney, forget that question right now. they're fired up to vote out obama. you don't see that among hispanics, not among young voters. that's still an issue the obama campaign has to worry about. >> okay. in swing states, of course, the obama campaign has bomb borded vote wers this powerful ad going over romney for his 47% remark. let's take a look. >> there are 47% of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. who are dependent on...
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governor romney than it is for president obama. we know president obama. we either like him, don't like him or are in between. lot more people have to get to know govern orromnor romney so more important debate. i think he has to be presidential. i think he has to convey the kind of person that people would be comfortable with as president. i tend to think we kind of score this as if it's a boxing match or basketball game. >> you know what it's like to debate mitt romney. i don't want to rehash any old wounds but i do want to play just some of the thing you guys got into and ask what he's like as a debater. >> governor romney, was new york a sanctuary city? >> absolutely. called itself a sanctuary city. in fact, in the welfare reform act president clinton brought forward said they were going to end the sanctuary policy of new york city, the mayor actually brought a suit to maintain its sanctuary city status. >> it's unfortunate, but mitt generally criticizes people in a situation in which he's had far the worst record. for example,
governor romney than it is for president obama. we know president obama. we either like him, don't like him or are in between. lot more people have to get to know govern orromnor romney so more important debate. i think he has to be presidential. i think he has to convey the kind of person that people would be comfortable with as president. i tend to think we kind of score this as if it's a boxing match or basketball game. >> you know what it's like to debate mitt romney. i don't want to...